Men-senno-men

can be made by attacking directly forward as the left hand passes down below the attacker's face and is taken to the right. Men Senno Dzuki is performed by dropping the point and thrusting upwards but this is very dangerous unless both the attacker and attacked have a good idea of what is happening.

Kote-senno-gote or Kote-senno-do can also be taken but the timing is more difficult. Do- senno-gote is easier since the attacker's Kote is entirely open as his Shinai swings inwards.